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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
John Jaeckel: Quick Rumor Update
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
John Jaeckel: Quick Rumor Update
- John Jaeckel



would you personally do Kane for Miller plus if you were GM?
DeepThreat
Joined: 07.08.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:20 PM ET
JJ love your stuff I have personal ties to ESPN Radio Chicagoand the Kubina rumor has serious legs and the Hawks would love to get there hands on Purcel as well, talking draft picks, minor leaguer and one player off current roster.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
In other news Danault had a goal and an assistnin last nights win,along with winning 17 of 32 at the dot!!C'mon let's hype him up!
RIDELIKEHELL
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Forest, ON
Joined: 04.01.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
JJ love your stuff I have personal ties to ESPN Radio Chicagoand the Kubina rumor has serious legs and the Hawks would love to get there hands on Purcel as well, talking draft picks, minor leaguer and one player off current roster.
- DeepThreat


Hmmm
HawksFan30
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 02.09.2012

Feb 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
What about Carter on the Hawks? I know he has a very long crazy deal but if they can get the money to work?
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:22 PM ET
would you personally do Kane for Miller plus if you were GM?
- nastyflyergirl


Not straight up, I don't think. I am not as high on Kane a some, not as down on Miller as some.

But I think it makes more sense as Kane + for Miller + (depending on what those +'s are form each side).

I also think the Hawks should be able to get a legitimate 2nd center (a good one) AND a top 4 defenseman (a good one) for Kane.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:22 PM ET
What about Carter on the Hawks? I know he has a very long crazy deal but if they can get the money to work?
- HawksFan30


PASS, bad actor
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:24 PM ET
JJ love your stuff I have personal ties to ESPN Radio Chicagoand the Kubina rumor has serious legs and the Hawks would love to get there hands on Purcel as well, talking draft picks, minor leaguer and one player off current roster.
- DeepThreat



You are right on Purcell, my sources have told me that, they also like nate thompson and have liked brett Clark in the past.

Be careful of ESPN Radio Chicago, a source there I was told hatched the Huet/Versteeg for Vokoun "done deal" rumor a couple of years ago. Not sure how much there was in the end to that, I think a discussion but not the done deal I was told back then.
leafssuckass
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SECTION 320
Joined: 12.03.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
I love Kane as a player and would love to see him on the Sabres. But there is NO CHANCE i would trade Miller even in a package.
HotSauceBlueChs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
Not straight up, I don't think. I am not as high on Kane a some, not as down on Miller as some.

But I think it makes more sense as Kane + for Miller + (depending on what those +'s are form each side).

I also think the Hawks should be able to get a legitimate 2nd center (a good one) AND a top 4 defenseman (a good one) for Kane.

- John Jaeckel

Kane+Bolland for Miller+Roy+Leopold
DeepThreat
Joined: 07.08.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
I remember that "DONE DEAL"as well, lets hope they finally get something done on trade front. would love to see Kubina and Purcel and the Hawks have the horses to make this deal happen.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
I think Kubina is the type of dman the Hawks could use and Zidlicky is too expensive.
Nerko77
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.15.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:29 PM ET
JJ love your stuff I have personal ties to ESPN Radio Chicagoand the Kubina rumor has serious legs and the Hawks would love to get there hands on Purcel as well, talking draft picks, minor leaguer and one player off current roster.
- DeepThreat


Wanted Kubina 2 years ago when he was with ATL... I guess it worked by not getting him...

Purcell would be a nice aquisition.
AL SEC0RD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago Stadium
Joined: 09.19.2005

Feb 16 @ 1:30 PM ET
Not straight up, I don't think. I am not as high on Kane a some, not as down on Miller as some.

But I think it makes more sense as Kane + for Miller + (depending on what those +'s are form each side).

I also think the Hawks should be able to get a legitimate 2nd center (a good one) AND a top 4 defenseman (a good one) for Kane.

- John Jaeckel


+1

All of Kane's perceived problems/issues aside, straight up trade of Kane for Miller is not a good trade. And I am not one of his biggest fans. Let's just say that Miller has a lot of good hockey left in him--Kane is still only 23 (?). For a team that is so conscious of public perception, that sort of a trade has way more potential to haunt the Blackhawks (and their image) for a long time. If that happened, the story would go from Hull thru JR, Belfour, Amonte, Chelios, the post-Cup purge, and then include Kane.

I don't see it happening.

Yes on Dorsett and Kubina.
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:30 PM ET
Kane+Bolland for Miller+Roy+Leopold
- HotSauceBlueChs


That's a step back in my opinion.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
I remember that "DONE DEAL"as well, lets hope they finally get something done on trade front. would love to see Kubina and Purcel and the Hawks have the horses to make this deal happen.
- DeepThreat


Read your PMs please
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
I love Kane as a player and would love to see him on the Sabres. But there is NO CHANCE i would trade Miller even in a package.
- leafssuckass


I like Miller but goalies are a dime a dozen. Scorers are not. Kane is a knucklehead but I'd still make this trade every day of the week. We'd have to give up more than Miller to get Kane.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:32 PM ET
I like Miller but goalies are a dime a dozen. Scorers are not. Kane is a knucklehead but I'd still make this trade every day of the week. We'd have to give up more than Miller to get Kane.
- Slump Buster


Agreed.
AL SEC0RD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago Stadium
Joined: 09.19.2005

Feb 16 @ 1:33 PM ET
PASS, bad actor
- John Jaeckel


I don't think Columbus trades Carter all that easily--that contract might be worse than Campbell's was. Campbell is still a very good and productive player. Not sure you can regard Carter similarly.
HotSauceBlueChs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:34 PM ET
That's a step back in my opinion.
- andru2797


Perhaps but I think you get a nice package right there.....Roy was made for a 2nd line position. Say what you want about him this year but its just a product of uninspiring play from our whole team.

Miller. Well you get Ryan Miller. He's clutch playoff time. Only reason we made it to seven games last year with Philly....and still has years of play left in him.

Leopold is a solid top 4 guy who is humming along this season even with the team tanking. One of our more reliable guys the past few years.

I dunno
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:35 PM ET
+1

All of Kane's perceived problems/issues aside, straight up trade of Kane for Miller is not a good trade. And I am not one of his biggest fans. Let's just say that Miller has a lot of good hockey left in him--Kane is still only 23 (?). For a team that is so conscious of public perception, that sort of a trade has way more potential to haunt the Blackhawks (and their image) for a long time. If that happened, the story would go from Hull thru JR, Belfour, Amonte, Chelios, the post-Cup purge, and then include Kane.

I don't see it happening.

Yes on Dorsett and Kubina.

- AL SEC0RD


I could see the Hawks doing a smaller deal for him and/or Tyutin. Either or both would help them.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:36 PM ET
john what about the rumor of pit/chi talks? saad for either nisk or lovejoy?? have you heard anything?
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:37 PM ET
I don't think Columbus trades Carter all that easily--that contract might be worse than Campbell's was. Campbell is still a very good and productive player. Not sure you can regard Carter similarly.
- AL SEC0RD


The issue with Carter is not talent. It's attitude. The guy can still be a premier power forward and put up 30-35 goals, win faceoffs, play in all situations. The issue is between the ears, as they say.
AL SEC0RD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago Stadium
Joined: 09.19.2005

Feb 16 @ 1:40 PM ET
The issue with Carter is not talent. It's attitude. The guy can still be a premier power forward and put up 30-35 goals, win faceoffs, play in all situations. The issue is between the ears, as they say.
- andru2797


Fair enough--I think we agree. So he scores 30 goals or so, at what price, literally and figuratively to a team?
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